Posts by William Penwell

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Awful WTBTS " infomercial " funeral service talk

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

w77 6/1 pp.

346-347 mourning and funeralsfor whom?

a funeral or memorial service?

William Penwell

The elder who gave the talk quickly squashed those efforts and clumsily said that the "service was over" and dismissed everyone. I WAS MORTIFIED!!!!!!!!!!

This is just another example of their self-righteous arrogance. It was not in one of their Kingdum Halls, then what is the harm. Not like they were doing devil worshipping or anything like that.

Away from the strictures of the kingdom hall, he had an absolutely lovely farewell, with even his JW siblings - my mother included - speaking spontaneously about him.

The best JW memorial I attended was one at a funeral home. They actually had a slide presentation to honor the diseased.

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Awful WTBTS " infomercial " funeral service talk

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

w77 6/1 pp.

346-347 mourning and funeralsfor whom?

a funeral or memorial service?

As I stated in the post I started, if their goal was to attract new recruits, all it did was turn off the outsiders. People are not stupid and see it for what it is a cheap info commercial to get new members.

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Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

by Mr Negative in

my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

is this true?

William Penwell

What the WT would never take anything out of context? Ha ha they are the masters of taking things out of context.

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JW Info-Commercial Memorial Service

by William Penwell in

i attended a jw memorial service about 2 years ago and the speaker i thought gave a good eulogy to the diseased even though he quoted a few scriptures.

just recently i attended another jw memorial and the sermon was about 10 minutes on the person and the rest a big info-commercial with a scripture quoted one after the other.

i did not keep count but i would think the speaker read about 10 - 12 scriptures.

William Penwell

I did the memorial talk years ago and made sure I read as little scriptures as possible...many came up and said they prefered that...in my public talks I would read 3 or 4 scriptures...no more...yet some rattle off 20+ in memorial talks or public talks...

The talk this same elder gave 2 years ago was much like this, very few scriptures and always reflecting back on the diseased. The one the other night like I said was one scripture after the other with no real flow and confusing. I wonder if some other elder said something to him, "well brother so and so you know you have to stick to the outline as provided for you by the GB". Of all times that you would think they would be somewhat compassionate at a memorial service but no it all was goes back to their sales pitch. Like I mentioned I spoke with a few outsiders and they were not impressed and seen it for it was a cheap info commercial.

Now it is not just the JW's. I was at some Catholic service a few months ago and it was very confusing and the priest spoke very little about the diseased.

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JW Info-Commercial Memorial Service

by William Penwell in

i attended a jw memorial service about 2 years ago and the speaker i thought gave a good eulogy to the diseased even though he quoted a few scriptures.

just recently i attended another jw memorial and the sermon was about 10 minutes on the person and the rest a big info-commercial with a scripture quoted one after the other.

i did not keep count but i would think the speaker read about 10 - 12 scriptures.

William Penwell

I attended a JW memorial service about 2 years ago and the speaker I thought gave a good eulogy to the diseased even though he quoted a few scriptures. Just recently I attended another JW memorial and the sermon was about 10 minutes on the person and the rest a big info-commercial with a scripture quoted one after the other. I did not keep count but I would think the speaker read about 10 - 12 scriptures. It seemed very confusing just raddling off one scripture after another without much explanation in between. I know these elders follow an outline from the GB but the old crocks at the WT still don't get it. If they think this turned others on to their cult they are wrong. I asked a few outsiders what they thought and they thought it was a little much. People aren't stupid and see it for what it is, just a recruitment info-commercial.

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Please Give Me Your Thoughts On Unusual Elderly Behavior....(thanks)

by minimus in

jw
friends

my girlfriend's dad who is 82 lost his second wife to cancer last october.

while she was dying, he secretly was seeing another woman, in her 60s.

long story short, a month after the wife's death, they both moved in together and in early june , they secretly got married.

William Penwell

Rub a Dub, I thought they had their turn signal on all the time?

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"Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

by FatFreek 2005 in

somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

ever sneezed?

the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

William Penwell

I take anythig the authorities say with a grain of salt. They do not want people panicing, so they will try to down play the dangers. I have learned the medical profession only tells you what they think you need to know.

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JW's and Death

by William Penwell in

i am sure this has been discussed before.

this is kind of a continuation on of my previous post.

we have just recently lost a close family member.

William Penwell

You would to think that religious people if they truly believe in a better life after this one would be celebrating and rejoice when someone dies. I really think that it just shows that these religious people deep down actually don't believe the BS.

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Door To Door: Meet The Father Daughter Team Of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

door to door: meet the father daughter team of jehovah's witnesses.. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ismt6inuklg.

bangalore.

William Penwell

She says "we love everyone" but should add "we conditionally love anyone as long as they follow the WT dogma".

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Knorr on 1914: "I don't know." - Mouthy Alert!

by compound complex in

dear mouthy and other denounced ones,.

you may find this double standard $%^@#@*&!

"in 1975, knorr made a remarkable and candid statement to the governing body, which confirmed his growing disillusionment until his death two years later: ["]'"there are some things i know --- i know that jehovah is god, that christ jesus is his son, that he gave his life as a ransom for us, that there is a resurrection.

William Penwell

We know that the 1975 date was all Fred Franz. It wouldn't surprise me if Knorr was not in favor of a lot of the religious JW dogma but left that side up to Franz. According to Ray Franz the GB knew that they mislead the rank and file dubs abut the 1975 date but never really apologised for their error, so what makes you think they will admit anything else they have said is wrong?